Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 22.33:
*That* is TOTALLY RIDICULOUS, and is the reason*why* there are so many
complaints about unsubscribing.
I'm sorry to say, but for those who cannot work with mailing lists, we
will set-up a forum. It is not possible to fulfill all wishes. I see
t
On 2010-10-20 5:05 PM, Jon Hawkins wrote:
> This unsubscribe/confirm procedure is basically the same procedure
> someone used when they subscribed,
If the link at the bottom of the email was an actual unsubscribe link
instead of the info link, I'd agree...
The info link should be second, and the
On 10/20/2010 01:33 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-20 4:16 PM, Jon Hamkins wrote:
On 10/20/2010 11:59 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
I have little sympathy for anyone not being able to unsubscribe if they
aren't willing to actually read the first 12 words (!) of the message
coming back from
On 2010-10-20 4:16 PM, Jon Hamkins wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 11:59 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
>> That is not instructions on how to unsubscribe, that is instructions on
>> how to send a message to get a 'help' response that will include
>> instructions on how to unsubscribe (*and* subscribe, and a bunc
Hi,
On 10/20/2010 11:59 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
That is not instructions on how to unsubscribe, that is instructions on
how to send a message to get a 'help' response that will include
instructions on how to unsubscribe (*and* subscribe, and a bunch of
other stuff), and because it is so long
On 10/20/2010 11:59 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
That is not instructions on how to unsubscribe, that is instructions on
how to send a message to get a 'help' response that will include
instructions on how to unsubscribe (*and* subscribe, and a bunch of
other stuff), and because it is so long, many
On 2010-10-20 2:59 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
> ACTION REQUIRED: Unsubscribe confirmation
Better:
ACTION REQUIRED: you MUST reply to this message to confirm your
unsubscribe request
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Charles
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On 2010-10-20 2:24 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-20 11:25, Howard Barr a écrit :
>> On 20/10/2010 04:02, � wrote:
>>> looking for instructions on how to unsubscribe
> The instructions are at the bottom of all emails. Look at the bottom of
> this email below.
That is not instructions on how to
Le 2010-10-20 11:25, Howard Barr a écrit :
On 20/10/2010 04:02, � wrote:
looking for instructions on how to unsubscribe
Hi Howard
The instructions are at the bottom of all emails. Look at the bottom of
this email below.
Marc
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Hi,
I agree with Manfred here (I'll try to translate his points) ;)
2010/10/20 Manfred Usselmann :
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:58:07 -0400
> Marc Paré wrote:
>
>> Le 2010-10-19 20:53, Drew Jensen a écrit :
>> > On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 09:37 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>> >
>> > Howdy Jean-Ch
Le 2010-10-20 03:55, Manfred Usselmann a écrit :
Keine Ahnung, was das heisst? Ich denke, die Mischung verschiedener
Sprachen in einem Diskussionsstrang macht überhaupt keinen Sinn und
führt letztendlich nur zu Verwirrung und Chaos.
Englisch sollte die Hauptsprache auf der Liste bleiben, weil es
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:58:07 -0400
Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-19 20:53, Drew Jensen a écrit :
> > On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 09:37 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> >
> > Howdy Jean-Christophe,
> >
> >> On 20 oct. 10, at 04:02, Marc Paré wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hmmm... then, the fact remains that a
Le 2010-10-19 11:21, jonathon a écrit :
On 10/19/2010 09:25 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
There is no need for a "global" user list and the "global" discussion list should not be a mere
"discussion" list but a "policy" list
Global lists should be multi-lingual. Use it for support or dis
Le 2010-10-19 21:10, Marc Paré a écrit :
Hmmm... then, the fact remains that a multilingual mailist model
will always be difficult to accomplish. The amount of energy spent
on translating from one language to another would certainly affect
the overall effectiveness of the group. Satisfying everyo
Le 2010-10-19 20:58, Marc Paré a écrit :
Le 2010-10-19 20:53, Drew Jensen a écrit :
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 09:37 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
Howdy Jean-Christophe,
On 20 oct. 10, at 04:02, Marc Paré wrote:
Hmmm... then, the fact remains that a multilingual mailist model
will always
Le 2010-10-19 20:53, Drew Jensen a écrit :
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 09:37 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
Howdy Jean-Christophe,
On 20 oct. 10, at 04:02, Marc Paré wrote:
Hmmm... then, the fact remains that a multilingual mailist model will always be
difficult to accomplish. The amount of
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 09:37 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
Howdy Jean-Christophe,
> On 20 oct. 10, at 04:02, Marc Paré wrote:
>
> > Hmmm... then, the fact remains that a multilingual mailist model will
> > always be difficult to accomplish. The amount of energy spent on
> > translating f
On 20 oct. 10, at 04:02, Marc Paré wrote:
> Hmmm... then, the fact remains that a multilingual mailist model will always
> be difficult to accomplish. The amount of energy spent on translating from
> one language to another would certainly affect the overall effectiveness of
> the group. Satis
Le 2010-10-19 11:17, Jean-Christophe Helary a écrit :
On 20 oct. 10, at 00:05, Marc Paré wrote:
I was under the impression that we were all in agreement, that the "lingua
franca" of the mailists is English and that localized mailists were to encourage
users to contribute in their own languag
On 10/19/2010 09:25 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> There is no need for a "global" user list and the "global" discussion list
> should not be a mere "discussion" list but a "policy" list
Global lists should be multi-lingual. Use it for support or discussion,
or marketing for languages or re
On 20 oct. 10, at 00:05, Marc Paré wrote:
> I was under the impression that we were all in agreement, that the "lingua
> franca" of the mailists is English and that localized mailists were to
> encourage users to contribute in their own language.
I think that is a mistaken view of the issues a
Le 2010-10-18 20:22, Jean-Christophe Helary a écrit :
I would like to propose that unlike what existed under Sun and Oracle, the
linguistic communities _including_ the English speaking community, are all
identified by a specific language marker and that all the lists that do not use
that langu
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 18:25 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> On 19 oct. 10, at 18:15, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Jean-Christophe Helary wrote on 2010-10-19 02.22:
> the "global" discussion list should not be a mere "discussion" list but a
> "policy" list where only items
On 19 oct. 10, at 23:13, Cor Nouws wrote:
>>> Joining the global users lists, gives the largest public, so more
>>> knowledge / international exchange. I find that useful in some
>>> cases.
>>
>> That works only for people who understand English. So it is not
>> global by definition.
>
> That i
Hi Jean-Christophe,
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote (19-10-10 14:10)
On 19 oct. 10, at 19:35, Cor Nouws wrote:
In any case, the current "global" lists are not global, they are
English lists and should be identified as such.
They are handling global items, as I see it. I do not mind if some
peo
On 19 oct. 10, at 19:35, Cor Nouws wrote:
>> In any case, the current "global" lists are not global, they are
>> English lists and should be identified as such.
>
> They are handling global items, as I see it.
> I do not mind if some people post there in a language that I do not
> understand (a
Hi Jean-Christophe,
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote (19-10-10 11:25)
On 19 oct. 10, at 18:15, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote on 2010-10-19 02.22:
I would like to propose that unlike what existed under Sun and
Oracle, the linguistic communities _including_ the English
spe
On 19 oct. 10, at 18:15, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Jean-Christophe Helary wrote on 2010-10-19 02.22:
>
>> I would like to propose that unlike what existed under Sun and Oracle, the
>> linguistic communities _including_ the English speaking community, are all
>> identified by a spec
Hi,
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote on 2010-10-19 02.22:
I would like to propose that unlike what existed under Sun and Oracle, the
linguistic communities _including_ the English speaking community, are all
identified by a specific language marker and that all the lists that do not use
that lan
I would like to propose that unlike what existed under Sun and Oracle, the
linguistic communities _including_ the English speaking community, are all
identified by a specific language marker and that all the lists that do not use
that language marker are explicitly multilingual.
The status quo
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