Hi, tested from remote server with bidirectional clipboard Libre Calc to local Libre Calc : if pasting works on the server it also works on the client. If it doesn't work on the server it also doesn't work on the client:
crtl+c, ctrl+v(server): ok, ctrl+v(client): ok crtl+c, ctrl+v(server): fail, ctrl+v(client): fail crtl+c, ctrl+v(server): ok, ctrl+v(client): ok > Ulrich Sibiller <ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com> hat am 17. März 2025 um 13:13 > geschrieben: > > Hi, > > I don't know the differences between the x2go repo (I have nothing to do > with this; I am developing solely on the arctica repo) and the arctica repo. > But since this is 3.5.99.27 there shouldn't be too many differences, > especially regarding clipboard. So this is ok. > > The results are interesting (and match my assumptions). Now that we know > that the client to server synchronisation is the culprit we can deduce some > problem on the client side. I will scan the logfile later, maybe it will > shine some light on the issue. For now it might be interesting to know if the > server server clipboard can be pasted _on the client side_. > > Uli > > > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 12:55 PM Jens Reyer > <jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com mailto:jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com > wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I recompiled nx-libs (based on the current Debian 2:3.5.99.27-2 > > code, NXAGENT Version 3.5.99.27). I hope this works, tell me if I need to > > switch to the Arctica code). There I enabled TEST and DEBUG and installed > > those packages. > > Attached is a session.log (Mate, with LibreCalc autostarted, where > > I first type in a cell, then do a successful ctrl+c, ctrl+v, then a failed > > one and then a successful one. > > > > > > results for different clipboard settings: > > > > Clipboard bidirectional between client and server: first, and then > > every second attempt work > > > > Clipboard client to server: half of the attempts fail, no clear > > pattern which ones fail > > > > Clipboard server to client: everything works > > > > Clipboard between server and client disabled: everything works > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Ulrich Sibiller <ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com > > mailto:ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com > hat am 13. März 2025 um 15:15 > > geschrieben: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > disabling clipboard via these setting will effectively > > > suppress communication between the client and the server regarding > > > clipboard. All clipboard communication will then happen between > > > libreoffice and the nxagent on the server side. No remote communication > > > involved, not slowing down anything. > > > > > > So chances are that your communication is too slow. I _think_ > > > playing around with the other clipboard options will show that it works > > > with one of the "copy from X to Y" options and not with the other. Can > > > you confirm? > > > > > > Uli > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 3:03 PM Jens Reyer > > > <jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com mailto:jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did the lightweight test on the client side, my local > > > > PC at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > And indeed, if I open a Mate x2go session to > > > > localhost's IP on the Linuxmint 22.1 Mate client (so server and client > > > > are the same, just different users) I can NOT reproduce the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I connected from another client/PC to my PC (so > > > > what's usually a client acted now as remote server): the issue still > > > > exists but only in about HALF of the cases, while it previously existed > > > > consistently in every case after the first try. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the original tests the server's were VMs (Proxmox > > > > PVE). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tests with connection settings: > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously I had the issue while connecting to the > > > > reomote server with connection LAN (here at work) and probably ADSL > > > > (from home). Now I tested the same remote server with MODEM: the issue > > > > still exists. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then I changed the clipboard from bi-directional > > > > (German: "Zwischenablage-Modus: Kopieren und Einfügen in beide > > > > Richtungen möglich" to disabled ("Zwischenablage komplett > > > > deaktivieren"). The issue is NOT reproducible anymore. > > > > > > > > So now we've found a workaround, good :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Setting the keyboard from auto-detect to "Model pc105, > > > > layout de" didn't help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there any other settings I should test? > > > > > > > > I'll recompile nxagent later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ulrich Sibiller > > > > <ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com mailto:ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com > hat am > > > > 13. März 2025 um 13:08 geschrieben: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > just to be sure: have you done the lightweight > > > > > test on the server side or the client side? > > > > > > > > > > Assuming you have done the test on the server > > > > > side. This indicates that the problem is somehow tied to the > > > > > connection. Can you please check if different connection settings in > > > > > x2go lead to different results? > > > > > > > > > > You don't need to compile x2goserver, just > > > > > nxagent. Compiling is done like this: > > > > > 1. checkout nx-libs from ArcticaProject on github > > > > > 2. run make > > > > > > > > > > If this fails you probably need to install more > > > > > dependencies. If it succeeds, you need to repeat that after changing > > > > > these lines in nx-X11/programs/Xserver/hw/nxagent/Clipboard.c: > > > > > > > > > > #undef TEST -> #define TEST > > > > > #undef DEBUG -> #define DEBUG > > > > > > > > > > After running make again you should find a new > > > > > nxagent in nx-X11/programs/Xserver > > > > > > > > > > Uli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 11:45 AM Jens Reyer > > > > > <jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com mailto:jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for > > > > > yet another PS: > > > > > > Yes, I may recompile a test x2goserver, if > > > > > > you tell me what changes/options you need. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jens Reyer > > > > > > <jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com mailto:jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com > > > > > > > hat am 13. März 2025 um 11:42 geschrieben: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could NOT reproduce the problem > > > > > > > with your lightweight test on Linuxmint 22.1 Mate: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nxagent -ac :55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISPLAY=:55 twm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISPLAY=:55 soffice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> OK (except maybe one fail, but > > > > > > > that was probably human failure) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the previous non-lightweight-test > > > > > > > in twm on the remote Debian Trixie server I started in that > > > > > > > x2go/twm session a terminal and from there soffice, since I > > > > > > > couldn't find a direct Libreoffice launcher. So I tried this for > > > > > > > the lightweight test - still works: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nxagent -ac :55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISPLAY=:55 twm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISPLAY=:55 xterm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In xterm: soffice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> OK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree there must be something > > > > > > > specific with newer Libreoffice versions, since I neither found > > > > > > > this with other applications, nor with libreoffice 7.3.7. But as > > > > > > > just discovered this is only an issue with (remote?) X2Go > > > > > > > sessions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ulrich Sibiller > > > > > > > <ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com mailto:ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com > hat > > > > > > > am 13. März 2025 um 10:52 geschrieben: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, thanks for the information. > > > > > > > > The nxagent is the current version, that's ok. Also I think we > > > > > > > > take out the client from the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just tried your > > > > > > > > reproducer with LibreOffice 6.4.7.2 on RockyLinux 8.10 in a > > > > > > > > rootless NX session without any problems. Maybe this is tied to > > > > > > > > newer LibreOffice versions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can also do a very > > > > > > > > lightweight test locally like this: > > > > > > > > 1. run nxagent -ac :55 > > > > > > > > 2. DISPLAY=:55 openbox (or any > > > > > > > > other WM) > > > > > > > > 3. DISPLAY=:55 soffice -> will > > > > > > > > open soffice in the nx window. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the problem showing up then, > > > > > > > > too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we need more debugging > > > > > > > > information which would require to recompile nxagent on your > > > > > > > > server system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 3:00 PM > > > > > > > > Ulrich Sibiller <ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > mailto:ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, x2goserver-x2goagent is only a > > > > > > > > wrapper. The real functionality sits in the nxagent package, > > > > > > > > and that's the version I need. Alternatively you can run > > > > > > > > /usr/bin/x2goagent -version on the server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KDE includes a clipboard > > > > > > > > > manager. What DE are you using? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does the problem also > > > > > > > > > show up when you are using a very simple window manager like > > > > > > > > > twm or fvwm2 or openbox? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at > > > > > > > > > 1:55 PM Jens Reyer <jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com > > > > > > > > > mailto:jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for the > > > > > > > > > > quick answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > x2goagent 4.1.0.6, > > > > > > > > > > as provided by the distributions, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so on the affected > > > > > > > > > > Debian Trixie/Sid Mate server: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > x2goserver-x2goagent 4.1.0.6-1.1+b1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and on LinuxMint > > > > > > > > > > 22.1 Mate: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > x2goserver-x2goagent 4.1.0.6-1.1build1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To the best of my > > > > > > > > > > knowledge there's no clipboard manager running on the > > > > > > > > > > systems, neither on the 2 tested servers nor the 3 clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most systems were > > > > > > > > > > just set up recently by myself, and I never used or even > > > > > > > > > > heard about clipboardmanagers before. Neither clipman nor > > > > > > > > > > xclipboard are installed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ulrich Sibiller <ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > mailto:ulrich.sibil...@gmail.com > hat am 12. März 2025 um > > > > > > > > > > 11:13 geschrieben: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please let us > > > > > > > > > > > know the version of nxagent (x2goagent) you are using. > > > > > > > > > > > Also ensure that there’s no clipboard manager running (on > > > > > > > > > > > both sides!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar > > > > > > > > > > > 12, 2025 at 11:11 AM Jens Reyer > > > > > > > > > > > <jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com > > > > > > > > > > > mailto:jens.re...@leberrohstoffe.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Package: x2goserver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 4.1.0.6-1.1+b1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Severity: normal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > an update/reinstallation copy&pasting in Libreoffice in > > > > > > > > > > > > X2Go always needs to be repeated, only the very first > > > > > > > > > > > > run works instantly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > found this issue only when using X2Go, but not when > > > > > > > > > > > > working directly on the same machine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > > > happens only in Libreoffice (Calc and Writer), but not > > > > > > > > > > > > in e.g. Firefox or an editor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Starting Libreoffice in safe mode (soffice --safe-mode) > > > > > > > > > > > > does not help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steps > > > > > > > > > > > > to reproduce: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start > > > > > > > > > > > > Libreoffice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+c, > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+v OK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+c, > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+v FAIL (nothing is inserted) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+c, > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+v FAIL (nothing is inserted) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start > > > > > > > > > > > > Libreoffice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right-click > copy, right-click > paste OK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right-click > copy, right-click > paste FAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > (Libreoffice Calc asks where to shift the cells, but > > > > > > > > > > > > then nothing is inserted) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right-click > copy, right-click > paste FAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > (Libreoffice Calc asks where to shift the cells, but > > > > > > > > > > > > then nothing is inserted) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Workaround: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+c, > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+v OK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+c, > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+c, ctrl+v OK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+c, > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+c, ctrl+v OK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tested > > > > > > > > > > > > affected servers: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Debian > > > > > > > > > > > > Trixie/Sid Mate (libreoffice 4:24.8.5-2 amd64, > > > > > > > > > > > > x2goserver 4.1.0.6-1.1+b1) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LinuxMint 22.1 Mate (libreoffice > > > > > > > > > > > > 4:24.2.7-0ubuntu0.24.04.2, x2goserver 4.1.0.6-1.1build1) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously not affected server: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LinuxMint 21.3 Mate (libreoffice > > > > > > > > > > > > 1:7.3.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.8, x2goserver 4.1.0.3-5) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tested > > > > > > > > > > > > Clients: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Debian > > > > > > > > > > > > Trixie (x2goclient 4.1.2.3-3) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linuxmint 22.1 (x2goclient 4.1.2.3-1build3) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Win10 > > > > > > > > > > > > (X2GoClient 4.1.2.2), with the X.org server option "do > > > > > > > > > > > > not use primary clipboard" both checked and unchecked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > reported this issue only here, not with the distros or > > > > > > > > > > > > Libreoffice. Please tell me if I should otherwise or if > > > > > > > > > > > > I should provide additional info or tests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My boss > > > > > > > > > > > > is willing to pay for a solution. 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